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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffTyler Date: Jun 17, 2007 10:35pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: deleting a duplicate show

I took care of it. Only your original upload of the show:

http://www.archive.org/details/mc2003-12-13.flac16

is left from your contribution.

I am curious, however, why you put the same fileset up when it was already up as of 2003 here:

http://www.archive.org/details/mc2003-12-13.flacf

The only difference is that this 'new' version you put up, you allowed mp3's. The original did not have them, but we could have made them on-site rather then you re-uploading the entire fileset. Please let me know!

tyler
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Poster: scoogy Date: Jun 18, 2007 10:41am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: deleting a duplicate show

Thanks, Tyler.

http://www.archive.org/details/mc2003-12-13.flacf

is not my upload. Since the uploader didn't put his name on it, I didn't know whose it was. A closer comparison shows that it is from the same taper as my copy. But the tracks are not the same, my copy is different. Since Max Creek tends to have long gaps between songs, I cut out most of the dead time . Makes the shows much more enjoyable to listen to.

Meanwhile, I did it again! I already had this show online:

http://www.archive.org/details/mc2002-02-23.flac16

and just uploaded it again by accident:

http://www.archive.org/details/mc2002-02-23.edited.flac16

That show has not gone public yet; I am at the metadata editor stage, and stopped when I realized my mistake. Please delete that show as well. I promise to be more careful in the future.

Why did these mistakes happen? Back in 2001, perhaps before the LMA even existed, I filled a great need in the Max Creek community by launching an mp3 site of shows, hosted on my home computer:

http://scoogy.com

Once people started uploading shows to LMA, some of my shows were uploaded here (from the original cd's, not the mp3's), but in shn or flac formats only, in respect my mp3 site. Since I didn't upload them myself, I don't have control over them to derive the other formats. In the case you referenced above, the taper uploaded his raw files to the LMA, and I created an edited version for my mp3 site.

As download speeds increased, the LMA became more popular, and people started downloading the flac files, instead of my mp3's. By six months ago my mp3 website had become a rarely-visited dinosaur, so I closed it. I also noted that LMA was being used differently than before, with more and more people using it to stream the music, instead of downloading it. That meant that I had to do something about those shows other people had uploaded without mp3 files for streaming. So I've been uploading them again, with derivatives.

There are also shows that were uploaded early-on by tapers who are purists, hate mp3's, and won't allow derivatives. I have my own versions of some of these shows - the cd's I used to create my mp3 site - so I'm uploading them; now the "listeners" will be able to enjoy the show, too. (of course, in this case I stupidly uploaded shows that I had already uploaded myself)

Thanks again, Tyler.